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Re: USSP WIPs (USS Prime concepts 31/3)
« Reply #20 on: April 01, 2009, 02:51:23 PM »
Quote from: USS Prime on March 31, 2009, 10:42:06 PM
If I do say so myself, I think 6 is getting close to the level of "Fluidness" I was after. Just wait till I actually make the pylons. ;)

Are you reading minds now? Cause after posting yesterday I thought "Hey, 6 could look good with curved pylons" :shock:
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Re: USSP WIPs (USS Prime concepts 31/3)
« Reply #21 on: April 03, 2009, 01:01:29 AM »
I love 1,2,5,6, and "Sargo Concept 7". The others look too much like the Nebula-Class prototypes we've already seen.
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Re: USSP WIPs (USS Prime concepts 31/3)
« Reply #22 on: April 03, 2009, 07:23:47 AM »
A small update. Started building the main/drive sections properly, trying to find comfortable placement for the torp launchers (Which aren't scaled properly yet ;) ). Still having trouble finding a Nacelle style for her but that'll come eventually I'm sure.
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Re: USSP WIPs (USS Prime concepts 31/3)
« Reply #23 on: April 03, 2009, 07:39:08 AM »
Looks quite Nova-esque! The secondary hull looks a little off though. Perhaps try it either taller or thinner?

The rest looks pretty good from here!
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Re: USSP WIPs (USS Prime concepts 31/3)
« Reply #24 on: April 03, 2009, 08:10:09 AM »
Quote from: limey98 on April 03, 2009, 07:39:08 AM
Looks quite Nova-esque! The secondary hull looks a little off though. Perhaps try it either taller or thinner?

The rest looks pretty good from here!

Yeah, I had thought the same when I took a harder look. I've toyed with the deflector end and it seems that's what makes it look weird. Still, it's far from set in stone so there's plenty of time to figure out the final shape. :P
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Re: USSP WIPs (USS Prime concepts 4/4)
« Reply #25 on: April 03, 2009, 02:27:24 PM »
Fixed up the Drive a little, deflector now looks more Nova-y (Which I think fits kind of nicely) and am trying to work out where to put the impulse engines. This one is pretty clearly based on a number of ships, but I'm not so sure about how viable it is (As it's a small ship and the pylons are thin, one torp would wipe out two sets of propulsion) The next I am thinking of trying is in the neck indent on the second platform (The lowest being the shuttlebay perhaps.)

The pylon models are still the placeholders, but the more of a feel I have now the easier to finish it so..

C&C welcomed and requested!
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Re: USSP WIPs (USS Prime concepts 4/4)
« Reply #26 on: April 03, 2009, 03:35:10 PM »
Quote from: USS Prime on April 03, 2009, 02:27:24 PM
Fixed up the Drive a little, deflector now looks more Nova-y (Which I think fits kind of nicely) and am trying to work out where to put the impulse engines. This one is pretty clearly based on a number of ships, but I'm not so sure about how viable it is (As it's a small ship and the pylons are thin, one torp would wipe out two sets of propulsion) The next I am thinking of trying is in the neck indent on the second platform (The lowest being the shuttlebay perhaps.)

The pylon models are still the placeholders, but the more of a feel I have now the easier to finish it so..

C&C welcomed and requested!

I agree with you about the impulse engines: not only it's a weakness, they look weird in the middle of those long pylons. It worked for Voyager cause the pylons were short and "fat", and that's not the case here (unless you're planing to use Intrepid-esque pylons).

Why not 3 impulse sets, a big one where you now have the aft torp launcher (or in the dorsal, like in the Nova), and two small ones on each side of the saucer?
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Re: USSP WIPs (USS Prime concepts 4/4)
« Reply #27 on: April 12, 2009, 04:26:37 PM »
Toying with the idea of three impulse engines. It's not quite sitting with me but having just the one on the back seems a little underpowered to me. I still need to rescale those torp launchers-- Maybe I could sit something in between them... Hmmm. The other variant that received some interest is still being worked on, but there's nothing decent to show yet (Still trying to figure out what to put in the cut-away.)

And yeah, I need to reconsider the size of that shuttle bay, it's far too short for standard stuff, and I'm kind of hoping the ship could support Sacagawea class runabouts... ;)


I also have a question regarding torpedoes... Is it possible to have torp launchers facing backwards on an angle that could change course enough to swing forward? Basically backwards facing forward launchers? (I believe I recall reading somewhere that torpedoes lose tracking ability based on their TTL, but I'm a little unsure). I have another project in mind but without that it'd kind of be a waste.
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Re: USSP WIPs (USS Prime concepts 4/4)
« Reply #28 on: April 13, 2009, 12:41:43 AM »
After hours of toiling, I present the design for the port nacelle!
(obviously the starboard is a mirror  :P)

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Re: USSP WIPs (USS Prime concepts 4/4)
« Reply #29 on: April 13, 2009, 06:05:05 AM »
I'll get to work on it asap mate, glad to see you finally got it done. :P
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Re: USSP WIPs (USS Prime concepts 4/4)
« Reply #30 on: April 13, 2009, 10:53:38 AM »
Those nacelles got some excalbur feel to them, great ^^
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Re: USSP WIPs (USS Prime concepts 4/4)
« Reply #31 on: April 13, 2009, 11:25:56 AM »
The fighter from the shmup "Layer Section/Ray Storm" and a small accuracy update to the Sa-77d.
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Re: USSP WIPs (USS Prime concepts 4/4)
« Reply #32 on: April 13, 2009, 02:23:50 PM »
Quote from: USS Prime on April 12, 2009, 04:26:37 PM
I also have a question regarding torpedoes... Is it possible to have torp launchers facing backwards on an angle that could change course enough to swing forward? Basically backwards facing forward launchers? (I believe I recall reading somewhere that torpedoes lose tracking ability based on their TTL, but I'm a little unsure). I have another project in mind but without that it'd kind of be a waste.

I know that the torpedoes in the Reimagined Galactica pack and the SG Pack can launch vertically and turn to fly forward.
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Re: USSP WIPs (USS Prime concepts 4/4)
« Reply #33 on: April 13, 2009, 02:25:19 PM »
It looks good in 2D form, good job...

lets see it in 3D  8)
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Re: USSP WIPs (USS Prime concepts 4/4)
« Reply #34 on: April 14, 2009, 04:35:57 AM »
Quote from: markyd on April 13, 2009, 02:25:19 PM
It looks good in 2D form, good job...

lets see it in 3D  8)

Here's the unfinished nacelle on the basic model of the Camelot.

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I also have a question regarding torpedoes... Is it possible to have torp launchers facing backwards on an angle that could change course enough to swing forward? Basically backwards facing forward launchers? (I believe I recall reading somewhere that torpedoes lose tracking ability based on their TTL, but I'm a little unsure). I have another project in mind but without that it'd kind of be a waste.

I know that the torpedoes in the Reimagined Galactica pack and the SG Pack can launch vertically and turn to fly forward.

That's exactly what I was thinking about, was just curious just how much control you can have on them in terms of launch angle.
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...Probably not, but the number I get(379.6m) could be considered ?original intent,? a term that I think I will be using from now on, and ?canon? be damned.

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Re: USSP WIPs (USS Prime concepts 4/4)
« Reply #35 on: April 14, 2009, 09:18:46 AM »
Neat!
(I don't want my quarters to be at the backside of teh saucer, though. that red-lighting all day would drive me crazy :D )
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Re: USSP WIPs (USS Prime concepts 4/4)
« Reply #36 on: April 14, 2009, 12:58:33 PM »
Quote from: yopyop on April 14, 2009, 09:18:46 AM
Neat!
(I don't want my quarters to be at the backside of teh saucer, though. that red-lighting all day would drive me crazy :D )

Soooo reminded of that seinfeld episode...
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...Probably not, but the number I get(379.6m) could be considered ?original intent,? a term that I think I will be using from now on, and ?canon? be damned.

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Re: USSP WIPs (USS Prime concepts 4/4)
« Reply #37 on: April 14, 2009, 01:50:45 PM »
Quote from: yopyop on April 14, 2009, 09:18:46 AM
Neat!
(I don't want my quarters to be at the backside of teh saucer, though. that red-lighting all day would drive me crazy :D )

Maybe they put the brig there...psychological torture.  :P
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Re: USSP WIPs (USS Prime concepts 4/4)
« Reply #38 on: April 14, 2009, 10:09:58 PM »
Nice job, Prime! 8)
Can we see some other views?
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Re: USSP WIPs (USS Prime concepts 4/4)
« Reply #39 on: April 15, 2009, 12:15:08 AM »
Sure thing, I'll do a few renders tonight.
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"The design is clearly ancient... Launched hundreds of thousands of years ago."

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...Probably not, but the number I get(379.6m) could be considered ?original intent,? a term that I think I will be using from now on, and ?canon? be damned.
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