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BC Forums => BC General => Topic started by: BCDS on February 13, 2007, 04:30:56 PM
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With the imminent release of KM 1.0 happening; i'd like to know how likely it is that people will even bother using WiP when its realeased; espescially considering KM's exclusive and exhaustive features and ships that will be included.
Be aware that the results of this pole may affect future development.
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You know this question/poll is really unnecessary there will always be people who like either KM or wip there is no reason one good mod should trump another or for that matter decide the fate of another.
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I likely will have both one install for KM and another for WIP I like variety.
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You know this question/poll is really unnecessary there will always be people who like either KM or wip there is no reason one good mod should trump another or for that matter decide the fate of another.
ya i agree - there are alot of huge mods out there soon to be released (DS9FX, Immersion, etc), that will be huge hits as well as KM...
besides, alot of people have a whole seperate untouched KM install for MP use, as well as a modded install for personal use...
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I agree with you Andrew, some people will stay on KM, some people will prefer WiP, it's impossible to please everyone.
Jimmy, I agree with you also, I have a copy of KM for online play and another for modding. But I'll definatley get WiP, especially as I'm working on it. It would just be nice if in our threads, we didn't get completley negative talk. KM has a lot of support behind it because almost everyone in the BC Comunity has it, WiP is new, and doesn't have much fan support at the minute, therefore, we need some input from the community of what they want to see in a mod and we will try our upmost to deliver. We already have some idea flying about, but are trying to make them work before announcing. Also, modellers would be a grea help. My trial for Milkshap has expired and I can't export to .nif with Gmax, unless that can export to something else that I could send to someone who has 3DSMax and could turn it into a .nif for me.
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i voted that it depends on the features - if theres not much new in there i wouldnt be that bothered about installing it.
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There is always room for new mods if they show people something new.
So it?s totally up to you guys to create something interesting.
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Oh we will. But we also want some help EG. Modellers, scripters etc.
And donations of ships and even more importantly:
IDEAS!!!!! We need ideas of what you guys want to see in a mod.
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IDEAS!!!!! We need ideas of what you guys want to see in a mod.
A Theme. A believable story line. And use of the fancy technologies in the mod to realise it.
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IDEAS!!!!! We need ideas of what you guys want to see in a mod.
A Theme. A believable story line. And use of the fancy technologies in the mod to realise it.
Alreadey on it :D
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I think it depends on what you define as a believable story line.
Would you be prepared to accept that the Klingon Empire would for the third succesive time declare war on the federation?
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No, its already been done. Only works once and then the novelty wears off.
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How about a renegade group of Klingons?
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Again already been done - Lursa and Betor etc. House Duras
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Damn, good point.
How about a full scale borg invasion? We could then get permission for the assimilated Galaxies etc. that might work.
Unless you have any better ideas.
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cos that one hasnt been done has it :lol:
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Then your going to say it isnt cannon
:P
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So I take it we're fine for the Borg then :lol:
Unless anyone else can come up with any interesting ideas, I'll create a new topic with a poll do see what people would like most out of the suggestions.
(Someone come up with some ideas(And post them!!))
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Try something less epic, there are lots of minor powers out there we don't see much of or know much about,
The Breen, Sona, Tholians to name but three.
How about an alliance between two or all three?
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Now that I like. Is there any ships for them though? I know someone was making a Sona ship somewhere.
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Yes, i have to agree with that, and of course, it still fits in with the story plot that i gave at the start, which is quite humurous.
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Try something less epic, there are lots of minor powers out there we don't see much of or know much about,
The Breen, Sona, Tholians to name but three.
How about an alliance between two or all three?
I agree with Elim on that, there are far too many stories out there which are based on things like, Destruction Of the federation and against all odds such things.... To me that kind of story is just too unbelievable. When set in the star trek universe.
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I agree with Elim on that, there are far too many stories out there which are based on things like, Destruction Of the federation and against all odds such things.... To me that kind of story is just too unbelievable. When set in the star trek universe.
Well you can still have that, just with a less well known foe, which makes it a bit harder to guess what they're going to do next and more of a challenge.
Now that I like. Is there any ships for them though? I know someone was making a Sona ship somewhere.
There is a whole fleet of Breen ships on BCFiles (sans HP's unfortunately) that you could probably use with the modellers permission.
The Sona only has an old out of date Battleship (on BCFiles) so you could probably do with a modeller on your team to build the missing stuff.
I'm sure you can get an HP'er (sorry I'm fully booked at the mo. ;) )
The Alliance thing was only an idea, there's plenty of other ideas you could use;
Maybe two of them are at war, and you have to pick your way between them to complete missions?
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Hmmm... We could set the player as feds and have to create a peace treaty between 2 warring factions, but not take sides.
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Now that would be consistent with the feds. Have them flying around putting out gradually escalating brush fires perhaps.
Remember tho that most wars are over territory, so the two side would have to be adjacent to each other (with possibly a small gap of space between them - like the Klingons/Romulans/Federation and Bajorans/Cardassians).
That should give you a fair amount of scope for story lines.
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I like where this is going.
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If i could interject here.
Perhaps we could have a united alliance between factions of the Brean Alliance, Remnant Cardassian forces and a 3rd race.
For the 3rd race, it may be possible to do what all good Star Trek series did and re-use vessels with new textures.
I've seen a few that would look nice as a different race, if we could get the permissions from atolm i could retexture them.
Of course they'd need to be done properly otherwise they would look stupid.
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how about the Kessok? those poor neglected forgotten-about Kessok lol
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already had a kessok war did we not?
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We could say they've joined the feds, and for the third race
Mirror Universe anybody?
Or someother alternate timeline?
I'm getting better at HPing now, just need some moddellers and probably people who know how to texture from scratch.
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Again, mirror universe and alternate time line are over-used plot devices. You need something more original and 'down to earth'
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Dr Who? j/k.
How about Breen, remenant Cardassians and Gorn?
Vs,
Klingon, Romulan and Kessok?
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Whilst this brain storming is intriguing, i feel we are running off topic a little.
May i make the final suggestion by saying
Romulan (Tal Shiar Rebels) and Brean against the Federation and some klingon support or Klingon and some Federation support
there will only be 1 major klingon fleet engagement with the federation or vice versa and that would probably be the finale.
Other tasks might be convoy escorting in which they might help or minor border skirmishes.
I have to say im very much appealed by the prospect of creating and playing a campaign from a klingon perspective.
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Poll is now closed.
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Dr Who? j/k.
How about Breen, remenant Cardassians and Gorn?
Vs,
Klingon, Romulan and Kessok?
The Cardassians are unlikely to ally with the Breen, especially after the Dominion War.
The Sona and the Cardassians would be a good combi as they seem a lot more selfish as a people.
Klingon and Romulan? Lol, they hate each other, that's not a good alliance.
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They used to be huge allies though, they gave ships to each other and both faught against Earth at around about the same time. Plus the new peace talks might of brought them together.
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Not likely though is it, there has always been a despise surrounding the Klingon and Romulan empires, one might call it as much as utter detest for each other.
Actually, i thought the Klingons and Romulans allied during the later half of the 23rd century in which they shared the design plans for the D7 and they received the plans for the Romulan cloaking device.
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It doesn't track with the political climate. The Klingons have a good alliance with the Feds, why jeopardise it?
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Why did they joepardise it when they attacked DS9 (admittably there was an external influence, but they still chose to do it), why did they jeoparadise it in Best Of Both Worlds when they closed there borders and openly attacked federation starships.
As worf said, if the Klingon Empire returns to the old ways, there lust for battle will have no end.
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Why did they joepardise it when they attacked DS9 (admittably there was an external influence, but they still chose to do it), why did they jeoparadise it in Best Of Both Worlds when they closed there borders and openly attacked federation starships.
As worf said, if the Klingon Empire returns to the old ways, there lust for battle will have no end.
Maybe because they had a changeling impersonating Martok?
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martok was second next to gowron, he had at least SOME influence in the decision, if not a lot.
And the Klingons did not close their borders in BoBW. They organized a fleet for support against the borg, although it was a bit too late (referring to wolf 359). According to Admiral Hansen in the 2nd part of the episode: "The Klingons are sending warships. Hell, we've even thought of opening talks with the Romulans."
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Sorry lol, not BoBW; All Good Things, hehe, got a little confuzzled there :P
Maybe because they had a changeling impersonating Martok?
Hence the external inflence part of the message. But ultimately Martok could not have gone to war for the Klingons without majority support from the High Council.