BC crash after getting into quickbattle

[JamesTiberiusKirk]

I start BC, click Quickbattle. It loads, camera turns to saffy and ZAP its back to windows even without a failure warning

btw thanks dalek!

with the consoledump i get this:


oh and I should inform you it just happended after I installed blackrooks galaxy pack!

>> This is a console tracker dump       by USS Frontier
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>> This dump started on -> Thu Aug 27 18:00:00 2009
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#----------------------------------------------------------------------->>> Thu Aug 27 18:00:00 2009
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Outdated Foundation, updating functions
Outdated Foundation, installing FolderManager
Updating FoundationMenu.ShipMenuBuilderDef V2
Repairing ship description outputs...
Tracking Console
Foundation Tech loaded
Gravity FX has been loaded.
CameraFX Enabled...
ExplosionFX Enabled...
SpecialFX Enabled...
WarpFX Enabled...
Slipstream Drive 20070905 Initializing...
DS9FX Initializing...
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Fixing Jaggies
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AttributeError: PreLoadAssets
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Setting Stock System Planets Random Density.
Slipstream: Quick Battle is running... Mod is starting up...
DS9FX: Kobayashi Maru is Installed. Deleting DS9FX Docking Function!
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DS9FX: You're not currently running a QB Mission. DS9 Set cannot be reached by Warp!
Trying to clean memory
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[teleguy]

Maybe it has something to do with this? *shrug*

http://bcs-tng.com/forums/index.php?topic=3896.msg38704#msg38704

[JamesTiberiusKirk]

that could be it. maybe Mleo can tell something from the console report

[Kirk]

Console report is clean. Sounds like a case of missing models and/or animations.

[MLeo]

If you are using USS Frontiers console tracker then there is a big chance that it won't log everything.
The reason for this is because it's a polling tracker, meaning it queries the console at a fixed rate. So if the game crashes after it has logged something, but before it is polled, then it won't pick it up.

My console tracker doesn't poll, it ties into the printing functionality. But it also isn't 100% perfect, but it would log the situation detailed above. My console logger floats about in the threads here in several locations.

But this type of error doesn't seem particular to a scripting error. Atleast not something that would show up in the console.
Do you have any crew mods installed? Did Saffi normally speak? Did Saffi look completely normal?

[JamesTiberiusKirk]

KM 1.0 as a base and then the elite force models, but yeah everything works, its just a pair of seconds and it crashes to the desktop. I dont even have to click something.

[JimmyB76]

have you tried what BR suggested in that thread at BCS?  teleguy mentioned nif issues...

Redownload the pack or get the CEGalaxy/Venture from BC Files, it uses the same models.

I'm going to pull the pack from circulation for the moment. But, do as I suggested and download the CEVenture from BC Files. And place a copy of the GalaxyRefit, & StardriveRefit in the Challenger, Venture, Magellan, Trinculo and San Francisco folders to resolve the problem.

also be aware that for now (until the issues are fixed)

there's also a conflict with DJ's Galaxy Pack. All the MVAM submenus are getting mixed up. I fixed it by giving each ship  unique longnames like "GCMP Galaxy", "GCMP Galaxy Saucer", etc..

try all that, and then if youre still having QB issues, we can at least know it isnt because of BR's Gal Pack...  (hopefully)

[Joshmaul]

I mentioned this earlier - this error didn't happen until I installed this pack, and now it keeps happening even after I took the pack off. I now do not have any of those ships installed at all, and yet it still crashes as soon as it loads up into QB. I dunno what happened, but something got screwed up in translation.

[Blackrook32]

I mentioned this earlier - this error didn't happen until I installed this pack, and now it keeps happening even after I took the pack off. I now do not have any of those ships installed at all, and yet it still crashes as soon as it loads up into QB. I dunno what happened, but something got screwed up in translation.

I've checked my pack. The reason it caused a crash, because it didn't have the GalaxyRefit, GalaxyRefitSaucer and StardriveRefit were not in the folder, instead the Galaxy, Saucer & Stardrive were in the ship folders representing the MK: Venture Variant. That was fixed.

I had a PC crash and I had to repack the mod. More over, I released this mod in two locations as a control.

The only way a person would be having these amount of problems? If they had a pre Alpha of this pack. Which had different scripting names and assigned tags for the ships MVAM and Hardpoints..

Curious, because I don't remember releasing that pre Alpha publicly.

As I said before, without a decent console report, it's all speculation.

[FekLeyr Targ]

I've noticed something else:
I also had those QB start crashes since I've installed GCMP. But the strange thing is: It only crashed when QBAutostart was active. And if it wasn't enough, the console doesn't show anything unusual at all.

[JamesTiberiusKirk]

man this is getting stranger with every step we take. i have absolutely no idea what could cause the problem. i looked over ever individual file in the pack. there is really nothing strange about it  :arms:

[Joshmaul]

I've noticed something else:
I also had those QB start crashes since I've installed GCMP. But the strange thing is: It only crashed when QBAutostart was active. And if it wasn't enough, the console doesn't show anything unusual at all.

I tried this too, and - despite the fact it shut off a lot of the features that came with KM1 (can't open the plasma streams, stuff like that) - it works, that's important enough. So I'm wondering if maybe the pack - for some weird reason - fouled up the QBAutostart...but if that's the case, it sounds selective, because I'm seeing only a couple people mentioning problems with it after downloading this pack.

[MLeo]

Mostlikely it is not QBA itself that is giving problems, but one of the mods that use QBA to start/install itself into BC.

[JamesTiberiusKirk]

Conflict between some other galaxy class mods perhaps?

[El]

This will happen when distributing unsupported pre-alpha's.

Either fix it yourselves or get a legit copy of the mod.