Ent-D Bridge project - part 1: 1st season bridge

[Picky]

I am very happy to start this topic (this is my first). I must congratulate with all the team for the fantastic jobs they have done in past time and I hope will do in future.
Firstly, I have to say that this is not a request but it is an observation.
Secondly, if you will like this idea, I  will be happy, if I can, to help for the realization. There is only a little problem: I cannot modify models or create new ones, but I am able to retexture.
I think that the actual early galaxy bridge retexture present on BC files is beautiful but, no offens, not perfect.
For example, can be a good idea to do a texture for the new Galaxy bridge, not the generation one, the Late TNG Galaxy Bridge. There are others two things: the helm and ops chairs have to be inclinated, like the Ent-C bridge ones; the screen has a little error (always no offense, the bridge is perfect!): the low part has a "step" from the recess to the floor, but in TNG the screen is smooth (like the generation bridge of  Frontier Production).
Sorry for my perfectionism, but I think that only with prfectionism we can improve the realism of BC.
I will be onlyne only in the late afternoon, so don't be afraid if you don't see an immediate answer.

[Kirk]

Are you:
1) Making a mod request?

2) Nitpicking an author's work?

3) Or strangely telling us about a new mod you are going to make?

If you answered "yes" to questions 1 and/or 2, I must warn you that both are considered kind of rude. Most people who are capable of doing what you may be asking are already quite busy with their own works. However, if you answered "yes" to number 3, then I wish you the best of luck, and I look forward to seeing your work.

Oh, and welcome to BCC!

[Picky]

Don't worry, I am not asking anything! This was only a guide for your future ideas: an advice to lead your mods to the perfection (like would say the borg Queen...). I know you are very busy: I am expecially waiting with a lot of interest the TMP bridge of Intercepter. I am neither criticizing your projects and I'm sorry if you interpreted my previous post as a nitpicking. About the third point I have a good new: this point is partial correct: I have in project a retexture of the actual Late Galaxy Bridge and, if the 3rd Era Team will give me the authorization (I'm young and inexperienced and actually I don't know how ask them the autorization... :?), I probably will relase it. What I said about the positions of the terminals in this bridge was only an observation to my work: if you want, you will be able to modify my early TNG bridge when it will be relased, this maybe could be called Version 2, but I am flying with the fantasy! As preview I will post here some picture: I know it is not perfect, expecially the helm and ops. Suggestions are well accepted. I will work at full time on this project by the next week , when I will have finished the school.
And thank you for the welcoming!

[ACES_HIGH]

not bad, this is just like it was in the past in AGT.  if only you could make the flip up panels on the captain's chair, like in season 1

[JimmyB76]

nice retexture!  we can never have too many retextures...

(I'm young and inexperienced and actually I don't know how ask them the autorization... :?)

you could always PM Mark about it...  tho i am fairly certain they are ok with people retexturing their bridges so long as full credit is given of course...  but even still, i would PM Mark just to be sure...

[Picky]

Thank you for your suggestions! About the flip up panels on the captain chair I am sorry to remember that actually I haven't any programme to modify the models, for that reason I will let this project open after the release, so everyone who want to apply improvent can pubblicate the famous Version 2 (see my previous post); there shuold be an adjustement to the chairs inclination and the terminals positions (in the pilot helm and ops weren't parallel to the screen but inclinated -see immage-), but I will colour the arm of the chair with a dark brown so the effect will be realistic. Now I will improve the floor and the screen, tomorrow in the morning maybe I will post others updates. There is another thing, I am sorry for my ignorance but this is the first forum I join: how can I PM to Mark? Sorry for the out topic.

[JimmyB76]

this is Mark's Profile...
http://bc-central.net/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=3

click on "Send this member a personal message."

as far as the helm and ops terminals and their chairs, you would have to remodel the bridge; and that is a major task... 
i think the 3rd Era Team are the only ones who have been able to do this, and unfortunately they are no longer working on BC as all their efforts are now being put into the Excalibur Project...

[Picky]

A great thank you for the explanation of the PM. I hope in the future I will have the possibility to modify models.

[Bones]

Nice work on this one Yeah those helm stations would be great if remodeled ;)

[Kirk]

I really like this, a lot.

[Barihawk]

It's shaping up, but it needs more wood paneling, damnit!

Early TNG = Wood Paneling!

Great work.

[Picky]

Thank you for advices and suggestions! I have improved the floor colour making it more green.
Also helm and ops are better than before. Now I have to adjust some detail. I have also some idea to improve this bridge:
- Can I, without modifing the model, add the blinking graded lights near the turbolift door like modified screenshot (there is something similar in the Sovereign Bridge)?
- Can I make the separation between the two colours of the floor (in the pilot there is more red)?
- There is a little bug: the blinking red panels and all the MVAM panels are not active -but I have Bridge Plugin Gold activeted[/i]-, if you know how can I solve this, pleas tell me.
- I think will be a good idea putting the reflexes in the lcars panels: do you agree?
A little update (the 2nd picture is computer modified):

[Bones]

I'm not so sure about LCARS colors after watching some TNG S1 episodes look at the pictures, also on the last pic you can see perfect colors for floor and walls in your retexture ;)

[blaXXer]

Does it come with optional cardboard covering for the engineering stations? :lol:

[Mark]

A great thank you for the explanation of the PM. I hope in the future I will have the possibility to modify models.

those helm models cannot be moved easily, but let me explain that thoroughly before someone jumps in..

The model can be edited using nifskope, and the helm can be replaced within the model (things have moved on somewhat since we had to import two nifs to cover the bad areas of the bridge).

The problem comes when you have to change the crew animations... on a non-stock bridge you would have no problems but because there are so many animations on the stock bridges and they all have lots of scripts you would get a crash the second that you move and of the crew... I know this because I have tried it

The only realistic solution is to re script the bridge as a non-stock model, and then very carefully find yourself the animations you need for the bridge. After doing that you could simply replace the sitting and facing captain anims for science and helm.

I have actually done 80% of the above process for Excalibur (we have 3 variants of the bridge, the season 1 version is used for the Wolf359 Frankenstein ships), but those new bridges need light mapping and reanimating - and they would never replace the stock bridge because of the aforementioned reasons

So yes it is possible, but not without making it a separate bridge, and not without some real knowledge of BC bridge animations.

[Picky]

Thank you for the explanation and the photos. I will use them to improve the panels and the floor. My actual idea was to do a separeted bridge called Early_Galaxy, so maybe I will be able to modify the helm and ops! Wait more updates for the late afternoon.

[Picky]

Sorry for double posting but I promised updates... and you will have updates -don't look after the lcars, I'm building other different panels based on the images of Dr_Mcoy. From this screenshots you can see:
1-The wood of the lateral panels.
2-The bug of blocked red alert lights (see previous posts).

Does it come with optional cardboard covering for the engineering stations?

No offense, but I'm not sure I uderstood: cardboard?

[Kirk]

I really like what you've done here, however, after looking at the screemns posted by Bones, I think your chairs are too brown, or at least too dark.

[Picky]

Yes, you are right. I will make the chairs lighter.

[JimmyB76]

is the ship at red alert with those sidelights?  or are they always lit, and then blink at red alert?