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Offline Mustang

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Re: HAVE A LOOK AT THIS!
« Reply #20 on: May 08, 2008, 03:26:56 PM »
Ahhh. Well. They need to sell it. So they can be SUED.

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Re: HAVE A LOOK AT THIS!
« Reply #21 on: May 08, 2008, 03:31:44 PM »
They can be sued for copyright infringement. Fairly sure the modders involved that have stuff on that "FREE" DVD, didn't condone or allow the site owner to sell discs with a "bonus" disc containing their work.
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Re: HAVE A LOOK AT THIS!
« Reply #22 on: May 08, 2008, 03:40:22 PM »
darkthunder has a point. In the readme for KM it says:

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5. You must contact us if you want to redistribute Kobayashi Maru, or any parts of it!

This is redistribution, thus they broke the licence/copyright thingy.
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Re: HAVE A LOOK AT THIS!
« Reply #23 on: May 09, 2008, 07:39:41 AM »
they are not marketing KM itself, they are selling the disc plus a free bonus...  they are using KM as an incentive, but the focus of the sale is BC...  as dirty as it is, they arent technically doing anything illegal or conducting any copyright infringements...
theyve found the "loophole" and are taking full advantage of it... 

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Re: HAVE A LOOK AT THIS!
« Reply #24 on: May 09, 2008, 09:30:00 AM »
Theyre still redistributing it though, which is against the licence/copyright in the readme for KM.
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Re: HAVE A LOOK AT THIS!
« Reply #25 on: May 09, 2008, 09:56:38 AM »
Just because KM is free doesn't mean it doesn't have laws that can be broken.
The license/copyright in the ReadMe for KM must be considered.
This site broke that so it's an illegal spreading.

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Re: HAVE A LOOK AT THIS!
« Reply #26 on: May 09, 2008, 10:33:55 AM »
well, im not too sure about the whole redistributing thing...  but anyone can grab KM off BCFiles for free... 
if they sold the KM disc, of course that would be totally different...  perhaps Defiant and the KM Team should intervene into this, i would be curious what to hear what the seller has to say...   

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Re: HAVE A LOOK AT THIS!
« Reply #27 on: May 09, 2008, 04:27:52 PM »
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If its free then they arent technically selling it.

Right, In order to claim mod theft, you would have to prove that part of the $49.99 revenue made was from the mod material included in the package. However, since they said it is FREE, this would be very difficult if not impossible to do.
However, you might have a case if they didn't credit the authors of the mods. Otherwise, they are legally entitled to do as they please.

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Re: HAVE A LOOK AT THIS!
« Reply #28 on: May 09, 2008, 11:20:52 PM »
They still didnt ask the authors of the mods in question, if they were allowed to distribute through other methods than through BCFiles.
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Re: HAVE A LOOK AT THIS!
« Reply #29 on: May 10, 2008, 08:50:17 PM »
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They still didnt ask the authors of the mods in question, if they were allowed to distribute through other methods than through BCFiles.

It's possible they did make a request to distribute the mod through the Kobayashi Maru forum or directly through the author's email but did not receive an answer. I've requested to modify KM 1.0 similar to KM pimped and have gone unanswered. Perhaps a similar situation occurred with them. According to the license agreement of the KM team, they are able to distribute anything they want as long as proper credit is given.




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Re: HAVE A LOOK AT THIS!
« Reply #30 on: May 10, 2008, 10:13:05 PM »
I doubt it.  They're selling pirated DVD's, so yeah...

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Re: HAVE A LOOK AT THIS!
« Reply #31 on: May 10, 2008, 11:57:19 PM »
Well we all know their a scam so the best thing to do is let others know.

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Re: HAVE A LOOK AT THIS!
« Reply #32 on: May 15, 2008, 03:30:23 PM »
they are not marketing KM itself, they are selling the disc plus a free bonus...  they are using KM as an incentive, but the focus of the sale is BC...  as dirty as it is, they arent technically doing anything illegal or conducting any copyright infringements...
theyve found the "loophole" and are taking full advantage of it... 

It's just like copying retail DVDs. You can copy them for yourself, and give one out to your friend, and they can't get you. The second you give it out to your friend for money, they've got you.

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Re: HAVE A LOOK AT THIS!
« Reply #33 on: May 15, 2008, 04:12:31 PM »
 :( Ah, the loopholes of the legal system. There ought to be something in the mod license agreement that states something to the effect of: "Any redistribution beyond www.bcfiles.com is strictly prohibited without the explicit consent of all the participants of the development of these mods" ...or something...

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Re: HAVE A LOOK AT THIS!
« Reply #34 on: May 19, 2008, 01:20:09 PM »
Good idea...